From:  "Kevin Craig" <KevinCraig@KevinCraig.us>
Subject:  Re: The Founding Fathers Speak Out on God, Religion and the First Amendment
Date:  Sat, August 15, 2009 12:18 am
To:  "cindy Mulvey" <cin-3@me.com>


On Fri, August 14, 2009 9:57 pm, Cindy Mulvey wrote:

> What you have written is not what I and many see

I didn't write the opinion of the unanimous
U.S. Supreme Court in 1892 that America is
a Christian nation. You refuse to see the truth.

> read this is GOD OF ALL
> http://www.sullivan-county.com/nf0/dispatch/fathers_quote2.htm

None of these quotations contradict the
unanimous opinion of the U.S. Supreme Court
that America is a Christian nation, much
less prove that the Court is wrong.

http://KevinCraig.us/EndTheWall/anti-trinity.htm

But the Supreme Court's opinion -- and all
the quotations and constitutions and other
evidence the Court cites -- contradicts
the claim that America was a secular
(atheistic) nation.

None of the quotations your author provides
prove that the U.S was intended to be an
atheistic nation, or a nation that tolerates
human sacrifice or other religious practices
which are contrary to Christian morality.

> Now it seems, by the way, that the Founders, even if they were devout
> Christians, did not desire a thorough-going Christian nation. How do
> I know that? Because they built into the First Amendment a non-
> establishment clause in which it was very clear that there was meant
> to be a healthy religious pluralism from the perspective of the states.

A Christian nation does not criminalize non-
Christian BELIEF. However, it DOES criminalize
non-Christian ACTION such as cannibalism,
suttee, polygamy, and human sacrifice.
The U.S. Supreme Court has REPEATEDLY ruled
that there is no freedom of religion for
non-Christian practices, even if they
are motivated by sincerely held non-Christian
religious beliefs, because this is a
Christian nation.

http://vftonline.org/TestOath/mormon.htm

None of your quotations disprove this article:

http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=23909

>> This man seems to know more the Media & religiosity ever showed us
>> if you have any a thought that he is wrong email him.
>> http://www.sullivan-county.com/nf0/dispatch/stand_reason.htm

I have no reason to believe that this man
is interested in my opinion.

The article he quotes, written by Greg Koukl of
"Stand to Reason" ministry, is a poorly-argued article.
I like Koukl when he argues against Mormons and
Jehovah's Witnesses, but not when he practices
constitutional law.

Koukl says:

> From this perspective of the state's involvement or
> encouragement there was to be a healthy pluralism
> in which the state allowed the development of
> any religious belief and expression without interference.

Belief, yes.
Expression, no.
"Expression" of religion will be interfered with
if it contradicts "the Laws of Nature and of
Nature's God."

http://KevinCraig.us/religion/nature.htm

As I said, the Supreme Court has ruled over and
over that someone relying on the First Amendment
to practice polygamy or cannibalism will still
be arrested and charged with a crime. The Court
said this is true BECAUSE we are a Christian nation.
The First Amendment does NOT protect religious
"expressions" which are contrary to the morals
of a Christian nation that recognizes "the Laws
of Nature and of Nature's God."

There is NOT ONE Founding Father who would
disagree with that last paragraph.
Not one.



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