Conversation with Lee Freeman
| I tend to think the State is Satanic and the single largest vehicle by which Satan works in the world. Thoughts? | As a Biblical anarchist, I believe the State originated with Satan, but I am a preterist or postmillennialist, and I believe Christ conquered Satan. |
| Growing up I was initially raised in the Catholic church and then later in an evangelical church. It wasn't until later in adult life that I came to believe in Christ. While growing up in the evangelical church I was taught about biblical end times eschatology. The mark of the beast that won't permit anyone to buy or sell without it. The anti-Christ, the one world government, etcetera. | The
Beginning Times: We Are Not in the End Times! -- (unfinished
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Most evangelicals are premillennialists who take prophecies about the destruction of Jerusalem in AD70 and erroneously apply them to our future. Jesus is NOT "Coming Soon!" NotComingSoon.net |
| Probably the single most frequent response I get from Christians, atheists, and agnostics alike about the contradictory moral nature of government is, "Who will decide who's right and wrong?" The premise in this response being that without a final authority to decide right and wrong there would be endemic and eternal conflict. Therefore it is moral and righteous to create authoritative rulers to decide that for us. | God decides what is right and wrong. The Declaration of Independence speaks of "The Laws of Nature and of Nature's God." Blackstone said these laws are to be found "only in Holy Scripture." All human institutions -- family, school, business, bowling team, charities, universities, security agencies, arbitration agencies, etc. -- are obligated to conduct their activities in conformity with God's Laws. |
| My question to those that believe this is: If absent a final moral authority to say what is right and what is wrong, does this not logically imply the eventual necessity of world governance because war and conflict would be inevitable without it? | Yes, this is logical. Many proponents of one-world government speak of the evil of "the anarchy of nations." |
| As the nation states exist today, they exist in a state of "anarchy." There is no final world moral authority to arbitrate conflicts. The U.N. even has no perceived final legitimate authority to command and rule the other nations. Same is true with the world court. | |
| If in the absence of a final world authority is conflict and war inevitable and would not the logical conclusion to prevent future wars and conflicts be a final authority to end it for "good?" | |
| If it's necessary for smaller groups of humans to have rulers, why not the entire world of nation states as well? | |
| If anyone should get this and see this it's Christians who believe in the end-time prophecies of ultimately world government. | They do not oppose humanistic statism because they believe in Christian millennial statism: Premillennialism's Faith in A Police State |
| These Christians themselves do not realize that their moral acceptance of a ruling class is leading logically to the very thing they see as bringing about the anti-Christ through world governance. | Interestingly, it can be said that politics determines eschatology. If we believe decentralized non-political life is possible, and even normative, then we will work to that end. |
| I suffer too say they may be unknowingly helping Satan's handiwork by supporting the legitimacy of a final decider. | They claim not to be Calvinists but they believe a humanistic one-world government is inevitable because predestined. |
| Remember how Satan told Christ he would offer him all the kingdoms of the world if only Christ would bow down and worship him, implying he had control of it to give. Almost everything the State does is a perversion of what Christ taught. It's a huge false morality that almost everyone believes in and morally supports, but it's all based upon violence, force, and coercion. The antithesis of a changed heart. | True, true true.
Both neo-conservatives and Marxists believe that the State can transform society. Violence vs. Regeneration |