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Liberty Under God
IRON SHARPENS IRON
Dialogue with Scott



Giving Thanks for our Christian Theocracy

  Scott posted comments on my blog here. His comments are on the left-hand side. My response is in this column.
Well, you asked for comments so here are mine: I appreciate incisive and passionate opposition more than fawning, and certainly more than being ignored. Thanks for commenting.
"Atheist theocracy" is a contradiction in terms, according to your definition of theocracy as "God Rules."

Atheists don't believe we are god, we don't believe we created the universe, we don't condemn ourselves to eternal suffering in the afterlife for not believing in ourselves.

In Genesis 3:5, the Tempter said man should be his own god, determining good and evil for himself. Every atheist decides for himself what constitutes good and evil, and writers like Erich Fromm have boasted of taking the Tempter seriously. When the U.S. Supreme Court declared Secular Humanism (atheism) to be a religion, and Secular Humanists to be entitled to conscientious objector status (previously limited only to those in the Christian/pacifist tradition), there were many humanist/atheist parties who testified that for them, Man is God.

In a Christian Theocracy, the Bible is the legal blueprint. In an atheist theocracy, man writes his own blueprint.

Yes, certainly virtually all the Founders were Christians. They were also all white men. Does this mean therefore America is a country only for white men? The word "for" is the critical word. Even if we assume that the Founders were radical white supremacists, because their legal blueprints came from the Bible, their nation was one in which blacks and women were better off than in atheistic nations. I'd rather be black in America than a caucasian in Stalin's "worker's paradise."

Yes, the Founders were white, but they didn't say "This is a white nation." They did say "This is a Christian nation."

You are presenting an entirely false dichotomy, that one must either be a Christian or support expanded state power. John Huckabee is a devout Christian who also supports expanded state power, and he has a lot of supporters. I'm presenting a logical dichotomy. If one is logically consistent with Christ's teaching, he will not support expanded state power. Huckabee may be "devout" in a subjective sense, but he is not following Christ when he levies taxes and acts like an "archist."
Many of Ron Paul's supporters, on the other hand, are atheists, secularists, and pagans who support smaller government. An individualist atheist will be crushed by an atheistic State. The more Christ-like the State tries to be, the less endangered the individualist atheist.
Finally, your declaration that "theocracy" means "God rules," while perhaps etymologically correct, is misleading. God doesn't sit in the Oval Office, or in congress, or on the Supreme Court. Nor in political positions of any other nation deemed a "theocracy" good or bad. I'm not trying to be misleading. I'm trying to lead us away from "Oval Offices," Congresses, and Supreme Courts. I'm trying to diminish the number of "archists," whether they think of themselves as Christians (Huckabee) or pagans.
Men rule these countries. A theocracy is ruled by men who believe, or pretend to believe, they know God's mind better than do their fellows. In olden days, they even claimed to be descended from God or whatever deities were worshiped by their people. But they were still men (and sometimes women). The key word here is "ruled." A truly Christian Theocracy is not "ruled" by men. Christians don't "rule" others. Self-government is the operative concept rather than compulsion imposed on others.
Christian theocracies in the past have waged bloody war on one another, and brutally suppressed and murdered religious minorities living among them. The Christian Bible, in the Old Testament, commands believers to kill atheists and pagans in their lands. The "Christian Bible" -- that is, the entire Bible, not just the Old Testament taken out of context -- does not command killing pagans in their lands. Start here to understand the theology of "capital punishment."
The fact that most of Christendom practices tolerance has less to do with Biblical law than with the fact that European Christians nearly destroyed their own civilization in the 14th Century in religious wars, and tolerance was seen as the only way they could survive. Even then it took another 400 years before intra-Christian oppression and killing finally ended in the New World. In the Old World, it only ended less than 20 years ago when "The Troubles" in Northern Ireland finally died down. This paragraph is an enthymeme. It's not a false premise, but I think it's trying to lead us to a false conclusion. Christianity has been emerging from its Greco-Roman slavery for centuries. Even Christ's apostles didn't always "get it." History shows that the more consistently we follow Christ, the better off we are, whereas the more consistently we try to be our own gods, the worse off we are.
In the 2000 years since Jesus lived and died, only the last 250, or about 12.5 percent, have seen Christianity linked to limited government and respect for the rights of men. This coincided with the Age of Reason The libertarian historian Thomas Woods shows How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization. I'm not a Catholic. Neither is Rodney Stark, who wrote The Victory of Reason: How Christianity Led to Freedom, Capitalism, and Western Success. Christianity teaches that man is created in the Image of a reasonable God (Logos). Atheism leads to the collapse of reason. See more here.
There is no logical reason one cannot have a pluralistic, secular society that respects individual liberty and private property. But there is no logical reason why one must if one believes he is his own god. If you believe the Bible, you are commanded to respect liberty and property. In history, Christianity moves humanity toward liberty, and atheism moves humanity toward Stalinism.
I see by some of your other posts that you are allied with Ron Paul's Campaign For Liberty, and your comments likely ended up in my e-mail box because I'm on their mailing list. If you are seeking to drive atheists, secularists, and tolerant-minded Christians out of the movement, you have made a great start. You'll have to draw the connections a little more boldly for me. Huckabee probably recoils in horror if he hears me talk about "theocracy," because he wants to be a "tolerant-minded Christian." But because he isn't a Christocrat like me and Benjamin Rush, he "supports expanded state power" as you noted. 90% of Americans claim to be Christian. If they will embrace anarcho-theocracy, we'll have the numbers to defend ourselves from Huckabee and the pluralists.
  I appreciate Scott taking the time to share his comments.

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